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epershand ([personal profile] epershand) wrote2011-05-02 07:39 am

Another kind of "no heterosexual explanation" moments

TFV's post on "no heterosexual explanation" moments, where it is hard to come up with an in-canon explanation for a certain character's behavior unless it's them being in love with another character, got me thinking about another kind of moment I experience periodically.

It's the moment where my own tendency to read queer subtext in everything blinds me to the fact that there is really obvious textual queerness going on. I am so used to thinking of the way I read queerness into everything that sometimes I just don't realize that it's not just me.

Case in point: the blowjob scene in Nico and Dani. I thought it was just an awkward film about two teenage boys who were maybe getting each other off a little bit, no homo here unless you're a slasher! And then... blowjobs! (Honestly, I still sort of think that my university's Spanish department selected its films with an intent to troll the firsties. Poor little bb!epershand was like "Did you just fade to black and keep the screen black for like a minute while keeping the blowjob noises on? European film, you... you confuse me.")

Dumbledore's "outing" was another one of those moments for me. Because... of course I'd been slashing Dumbledore/Grindlewald, GAY OLDER MENTORS is my favorite trope. But finding out that JKR also slashed them came at me out of nowhere.

Editing this to add one more example: in Farthing it took me way too long to figure out that all those intense conversations about what kind of tea people drank that sounded like obscure euphemisms for homosexuality? Were obscure euphemisms for homosexuality. ("Do you like INDIA tea or CHINA tea? Personally, I like China tea... with lemon. You look like a man who... also likes lemon in his tea.")

So, what are your "being a slasher made me not notice obvious canon queer characters" moments? What are the texts that you only belatedly realized didn't need queering?

[identity profile] oliveoyl.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine is really embarrassing, because it is SO GAY, but just as you say, I was still at that point where I assumed all gayness must be in my head... Okay. Talented Mr. Ripley. I KNOW, I KNOW. I MEAN, to be fair to me, I think I did realize that the filmmakers intended to suggest Tom's crush on Dickie when he asked to get into his bath with him. I got that. But I was too busy freaking out over that dynamic (and listen, I regret nothing: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvdu6smhk1qdol37o1_500.gif) that I kind of completely forgot to notice obvious canon gay Peter Smith-Kingsley AND his canon-gay RELATIONSHIP with Tom in the last part of the film. Don't even -- I don't even know. I was distracted by the above. Now, of course, when I watch it, I am mainly waiting for Peter S-K to come onscreen because he is the only nice one in the movie.

Another example for me is Boy Meets World, a show that I used to think was playing up its slashiness for a sort of... crude joke at Shawn and Cory's expense, like 'ho-ho, aren't these characters homoerotic, it's hilarious.' But now when I rewatch (again, don't judge me), it's clear to me that it's SO over-the-top that it crosses the point of being a joke and just becomes real. When Shawn buys a Cinnabon and Cory knows it's for him and Shawn blushes to his roots and murmurs, "Cory..." we have officially gone beyond.

ugh they even had a meet cute. so ashamed.

[identity profile] oliveoyl.livejournal.com 2011-05-02 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently this is how I thought friends behaved:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lew6qfVs2O1qddfrco1_500.gif

And then they cuddled. SO FRIENDLY!

[personal profile] vito_excalibur 2011-05-03 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh fuck, are you kidding me? It is such a wonderful movie. We should watch it sometime!